As a supportive friend, I have questions, too.. Whatever happened to preaching The Bible, and not ones own brand of The Gospel? If it comforts you to think otherwise, thats not my problem. Very. Nobody is perfect. (The cases were settled out of court.). Bakkers son, Jay, wrote in 2001 that the Bakkers felt betrayed by Falwell, whom they thought, at the time of Bakkers resignation, intended to help in Bakkers eventual restoration as head of the PTL ministry organization. Repent, and live I sincerely hope you prayed about this before you set out to broadcast it to the entire world. It appears that the fate of mega church superstars happens eventually when they start believing their own press.If it had been me I would probably never have lasted as long. I have. I didnt bring him up. Coy's preaching career ended, but his sex scandal was far from the first for Calvary. I am much more amil in my beliefs. But, if he is restored he will be like Jacob who limped for the rest of his life after he finally won Gods blessing over his life. I also posted a Youtube of BC at Liberty University at last yrs graduation ceremony. The Calvinist teaching does not coincide with Gods nature and Gods love as revealed in Scripture! tim petrovic career earnings what happened to diane coy. Loss off place in church culture. {P} , , , - , , , . Michael, come on now. Diane Coy is on Facebook. See Against Heresies, Book V. He was refuting arch heretics Marcion and Valentinus who taught amillennialism. By the same token, I like the debate but blame others . The children at the school were told that DC and the family is in California. I hope the best for you Mr Coy God can still use you; after all Peter outwardly deigned Christ (3) times and was lifted up to be the one appointed to feed the sheep and , excuse the analogy, you will need to be willing to be crucified upside down. You are listening to Luther and Augustine. If I had to choose between a repentant Bob Coy or even a Moses model pastor teaching correct doctrine or someone who is morally correct under a board that makes the decisions for the church, and yet teaching false doctrine like that Jesus only died for the Christians and not for the whole world, that there is no free will involved in salvation, when the Bible continually tells us that there is, and when part of their foundation is replacement theology, that is, that the church has replaced Israel and that the tribulation has already happened, then give me the Moses model pastor, sometimes and in many cases we have to choose the lesser of the two evils, as Jesus said, The scribes and the Pharisees have seated themselves in the chair of Moses; 3therefore all that they tell you, do and observe, but do not do according to their deeds; for they say things and do not do them. He didnt say stop hearing them. This post is the work of SATAN. CCFL is currently led by Pastor Doug Sauder. Afterwards BC was the poster boy for raising money and he spoke for Crown Financial on how to get the church to give. Man is capable of all sorts of evil even saved 2. It would be good to listen to her insight. Because of the way The Holy Spirit used Pastor Bobs Ministry my Wife , kids and I are all saved ! http://www.charismanews.com/opinion/43441-what-we-can-learn-from-calvary-chapel-pastor-bob-coy-s-moral-failure, Diamond Donny wrote: He said Satan was looking to destroy people .he sure did not take his advice. I have been stating 61 million. Andy, I made a couple of comments to Mary! When Jesus said The words that I have spoken to you are spirit and life. he was not saying. Total identity loss. In May, Matt Tague, an assistant pastor at North Coast Calvary Chapel in San Diego, was arrested on 16 counts of lewd and lascivious acts on a minor under 14 years old. Whats the big deal Calvary Chapel Costa Mesa is not in Costa Mesa. So here is the text. By now we should have learned how to come to these matters. So that Until the Whole World fund raiser was never used for a new sanctuary as planned. The only ones that are monogamous are the ones who have no choice because theyre either too old, too fat or too ugly or too poor. . Stop being so vindictive and pray for a Christian brother, his wife and children. That doesnt happen unless you do something really bad, not just adultery. And since you have it all sorted out there is no reason for anyone to talk to you about it. Thats getting copied and pasted and saved to be used a lot in the future . It is never healthy. Coy's faithful didn't know it, but just over a year after the pastor's resignation for adultery, Coral Springs Police launched their investigation into a far worse allegation. I love him as my true brother in the Lord and because his weakness overtook him will not change that. If I was a new believer ( and Im not, its been 40 years) I would run fast, away from this apparent hate tank if I thought this was the body because thats what this has become- a hate tank. I especially loved Pastor Bobs teaching. You never know what youd do if you were in his position.thats like a bum saying hed never do what a rich man would do. Its all good. The church didn't respond to a detailed set of questions from New Times, instead sending a general statement about the former pastor. Regardless of what Bob has done, that should not interfere with our relationship with God, we have to stand strong in our faith and love for Him. [6] {} 9 They shall not hurt nor destroy in all My holy mountain; for the earth shall be full of the knowledge of the LORD, as the waters cover the sea. Pastor Chuck Smith in 2006; the Calvary Chapel phenomenon, which now includes more than 1,000 churches nationwide and hundreds more overseas, began with the 25-member church Smith founded on a Costa Mesa lot in 1965. Ive seen many come and go and have seen a lot of stuff I didnt like here. I found it accidentally on Google. Miss Daisy, i assume youre a woman, if youre not, then you have bigger problems, but if youre a woman of course you havent had problems with porn, porn is primarily a mans vice. no venom) ..I know too well the disappointment of which you speak. #805 yeah considering that all of MIchaels info is inaccurate. We need to have discernment these days otherwise many shall be deceived. This is between God, his family and him. The internetbeing able to attend service from your computer also became possible. This will harden them somewhat but it will pass and they will be better for it. Welcome to those who found this blog due to Bob Coys fall, my heart and prayers go out to you as you navigate this difficult time. Try and keep up:). 1 And there shall come forth a shoot out of the stock of Jesse, and a twig shall grow forth out of his roots. (Update: The club has now terminated its relationship with Coy and says it had no inkling of the allegations against him.) Coy, who was never charged with a crime, lay low after leaving Calvary but recently turned up at Boca Raton's Funky Biscuit, where he helps manage the club. 4given By that account we are all guilty, except it would seem for MLD.. I have always been amazed I wouldnt know how to tell a dirty joke or swear in front of a strange woman. 2 And the spirit of the LORD shall rest upon him, the spirit of wisdom and understanding, the spirit of counsel and might, the spirit of knowledge and of the fear of the LORD. I dont care if its Billy Graham, Chuck Smith or John Calvin himself who came back from the dead if they should appear and teach contrary to the word of God, they are to be rejected. {} 10 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the root of Jesse, that standeth for an ensign of the peoples, unto him shall the nations seek; and his resting-place shall be glorious. Just ask Michael Newham, hell avoid the question as he points his stubby little fingers everywhere else but at himself, or Alex G, he at at least might be more honest and tell he you hes viewed porn and probably worse. Thank you for the correction. I find it doubtful that one 4 yr old girl was forced to do this and it happened to not one other person when she says it happened repeatedly? Unfortunately, his teaching was very shallow, and a tendency toward story-telling and stand-up comedy in favor of sound, Biblical doctrine was both offensive and disappointing to me asking themselves why they did not recognize the absence of authentic Christian character in the fallen mega-pastor. "Our pastor, he committed adultery with more than one woman. to clarify, are you saying that Coral Ridge Presbyterian is Jezebel leading Jesus bond-servants astray? As per the recent report, his net worth is $ 5 million. I am deeply stunned, sickened, hurt and devastated about this news. He was forced to resign. etc. None of us can understand how that kind of money can insulate us from anything we dont want to deal with. You just have to be careful when looking for a church some of these churches teach that Calvinism garbage, like God had chosen some to go to hell and theres no such thing as free will for the nonbeliever, and the limited atonement nonsense that Jesus only died for the elect and not for the whole world, others teach replacement theology that God is through with the nation of Israel and we the church have replaced them and there are no more promises for Israel, but instead they apply to the church. Our pastor, he committed sexual immorality, habitually, through pornography. The case was closed in 2016. I have read SO MANY comments from Bob Coy followers that said, Bob always said to us, If you trust in me, I will let you down. Sheesh. With that we end another day of broadcasting. 1 JOHN 1:8 If we claim to be without sin,we deceive ourselves and the truth is not in us. We were very involved. It just shows you cant answer me, so you put up a man who has been dead over 400 yrs and argue with him. In 1988, Coddington founded Boyd's Wheels, Inc. to manufacture and market his custom billet wheels. Diamond donny, theres a lot of truth in all that. Moe- I thought of the verse Does a dog return to its vomit. Apologies are step two. MLD, I would love to meet you someday, as you are the only man I have heard of who does not struggle with this in some way. And I am not a Calvinist. My heart is with his family and that congregation. Hugh, Yeah, I agree completely with Neo, You really, really need a hug. Miami New Times also pointed to a long list of other staff who are part of the global family of Calvary Chapel churches and have been accused of sexual abuse, including a number from earlier this year. Is his family with him? Within a few days you will too. This is the church were talking about. You know little to nothing of what you speak and Im not going to waste any time trying to help you as i perceive you to be utterly unteachable. http://pompanobeachfl.gov/pages/department_directory/development_services/planning_and_zoning_division/pdfs/maps/city_map.pdf, http://www.city-data.com/zipmaps/Pompano-Beach-Florida.html. Let there be no hint of rejoicing in this sad day. 1. God doesnt jugde nor hold this against him. Many get off drugs w/o evangelical christianity, many turn themselves around from alcohol or gambling or other vices w/o evangelical christianity. For the imature in Christcontinue to drink your milkwe are praying for you. Loss of a job, insurance, future employment, loss of career. The article noted that in total at least eight pastors, staffers, and volunteers in Calvary Chapel's network in the U.S. have been charged with abusing children since 2010. I hate replacement theology. Jessica Hahn was a plant and Bakker was a willing stooge but I still felt bad for him. Its always awful, no matter the denomination or the size of the congregation. When a mocker comes along it is real important for him to be smart and accurate with his mocking. Its in the public record that for working part time for Grace To You in 2011 he earned $402,000. Seriously? I will draw no further comparisons between yourself and a bird with a brain the size of a nut. One of the best you could find in a mega church. Anonymous, if what you wrote is true, this is the most repulsive thing Ive read yet on this thread. even a little. Interesting and worthy of noting: it was called CC Ft Lauderdale and was never in Ft Lauderdale but Pompano BeachHe was called to Ft. Lauderdale but never ever had a church there. Indwelling our hearts, He gives new life to us, empowers and imparts gifts to us for service. Depression,anxiety and emotional paralysis can cloud your ability to make healthy decisions and achieve a happier life. Good or them!!! Someday, all our sins will be revealed, you may be surprised who has hidden this type of sin, how prevalent it is, and how many are struggling to not be exposed for fear of being treated like we are treating Bob Coy. Serious people interpret the Bible and serious people disagree. Im sorry for you and your pain. Pastor Bob was screwing women other than his wife. It never happened. The abuse lasted until she was a teenager, she told the cop. Power and fame increases that chasm and insulates man from the accountable nudges from the Holy Spirit. I cant agree with this statement at all. Sure would make the shame easier to bear.. Did you commit adultery with them? The 8-9 years I was there she was never around and hardly did any ministry. 2 And he seized the dragon, that ancient serpent, who is the devil and Satan, and bound him who was grabbed? He has also been teaching for even longer that the blood of Jesus Christ has no power to save. All over FB all the loyal supporters from his church are posting what I view as self-righteous comments. Sounds like the sin isnt what concerns you but its about the money. Were there other abuse claims against Coy during the nearly three decades he controlled Calvary Chapel Fort Lauderdale? Its a gift you have that really helps me have a better understanding of things. Thank you Bob Sweat, Paige and others who have gone through thisthank you for speaking truth and speaking with love and grace. Failings that are evidence of deep and chronic character flaws by their nature require a different kind of remediation. Please reveal your sources, or at least generically their affiliation to Calvary Chapelor leave the story alone and let the church handle it in house.thank you, AND GOD BLESS YOU!! We do not know if he has repented and maybe his unrepentance (if it is) is why he did not stand before the congregation. Because this is a personal matter, any further questions would be best addressed to Bob Coy himself.". 5 And righteousness shall be the girdle of his loins, and faithfulness the girdle of his reins. Thats a big deal = Bob chose. Thanks. I will be giving more information as it is vetted. If the church is to be known by our love for each other, how are we (this blog exchange) any different from those who dont believe in the most fundamental thing we hold together to be true (Him crucified for US- That we are all sinners saved by his shed blood, not by our own works?) So he led the people through the Port of New Orleans and up the Mississippi River to St Louis in what began the LCMS. I do pray for the restoration of Bob and his family. As spring breakers poured into Fort Lauderdale to bong beers, he set up "The Recovery Room" at the Jolly Roger motel, where he offered live music, first aid, and of course Evangelical literature. 14 And they shall fly down upon the shoulder of the Philistines on the west; together shall they spoil the children of the east; they shall put forth their hand upon Edom and Moab; and the children of Ammon shall obey them. I will answer the rest of these questions if you answer mine. They would rather see a family trashed than do what is right by the Lord. His programs were included on Trinity Broadcasting Network, a network that hosts several televangelists. They had plenty of time to tell their people and they already had prepared for their family meeting. Who made you Coys torpedo? Then, on July 18, police arrested 41-year-old Roshad Thomas, who had spent 13 years as a volunteer youth pastor at Calvary Chapel Tallahassee. My step-dad CC pastor did that same thing as well. I empathize with those of you who have have called Bob your Pastor. My Prayers and heart go to Bob Coy and his family. The dicey part for this church is that there is a chance that some leadership people knew this was an ongoing problem for years. Shouldnt these posts be cathartic? Otherwise, at least he doesnt get rich off of Jesus and doesnt bilk people of their money and tows the moral line he lays down. He is being destroyed in the media and the usual covering has not been applied by CCCM. Does the Bible mention the term moral failing? Im a little slow like that. He toured the nation on Evangelical radio and TV shows, hung around with Billy Graham, and published books and CDs. I am Michaels friend and have known him for several years now. IMO, in many ways, this is a good thing. Bob chose to do that. "If we go off the record, I could tell you a lot," he says. KMOA. Adultery creates a ripple effect that grows outward and touches so many lives not just the two involved and it takes two willing participants to maintain. just a kind reminder that Pastor Bob coy and his family are human beins with feelings and I cant reconcile my mind why something like this that could cause so much harm especially to his two children you would proceed with. Any ideas? Physically and mentally- and this blog helped me tremendously because there were others here who shared the same story. I lean towards Calvinism but not even close to Dominion-ism. If it continues and endures it is Gods church and bigger than any one man to the consternation of the circling vultures of which this website is replete with! Its as consistent as the law of gravitythe CC senior pastor marching up the sinner in front of the church to confess their sin publiclythen when its their turnthey want maximum grace and privacy and its a different standard. So, that right I have no sympathy especially for what may be coming Bob Coys way. Hes probably dirtier than Pastor Bob. So, what about babylons Dread is his theology from Homer Simpson? And because of this I rejoice. But the point you missed was your quote supported my view 100% that the seven times is definitely not years but cycles of some sort or as I said, the complete amount of time needed to work Nebe or as JFB say a complete revolution in his state of mind, You are incapable of doing anything but parroting what what youve heard. With his tale of drug addiction and strip clubs, the newly redeemed Coy was a perfect fit for Calvary's edgier message. That would include the pornography stars. He is being made a point of so that repentance can take place. MLD, again, Acts 2 isnt speaking on the truth of a literal 1000 years in Revelation. I personally believe that when more people with big bucks started attending, things really changed. Coy was banging 2 woman in the last year if not more where was his brain??? CCFL is currently led by Pastor Doug Sauder. BC did not write his sermons as I understand it. Every man of God gets tempted by the three Gs.. Maybe its time you give CC another chance assuming your still in the area and maybe I should take my own advise LOL, If possible, so far as it depends on you, be at peace with all men. PS Connie and Ashleigh (Pastors Gregs wife) have been afflicted with cancer I will ask you all to hold them in prayer this month please. WIKI article is pretty good. The church was more concerned with non-believers.. come as you are to meet Jesus than protecting their own sheep. Too bad Christians dont look beyond a mans reputation to the truth. Miami New Times, which first reported on the child abuse accusations against Coy on Tuesday, said that the 61-year-old founder of the 25,000-member megachurch in Florida is denying the allegations. Coy's preaching career ended with shocking speed, but his sex scandal was far from the first for Calvary Chapel. MLD, no point in debating anything with you. But after a short time, good old Martin Stephan was caught diddling the girls and dipping into the funds. They wanted spirituality but could never go back to their parents' churches. There are many Christian men who would not trade their happy monogamous marriages for the most beautiful women in the world. phoenixpreacher@gmail.com. It's unclear how seriously they took the claim of the teenager whom New Times is not naming in accordance with our policy on reporting on victims of sexual abuse who said Coy had forced her to have sex even when she was only 4 years old. Well, thats simply not true either and not quantifiable. BC was seated at their table, even though they were new compared to others who attended for over 20 years at that point. This is what is so frustrating to me. No bitterness here. I dont have time to comment much, but let me clear up a couple of things. I did. STOP SPREADING GOSSIP PLEASE. Why so disrespectful? Unfortunately, his teaching was very shallow, and a tendency toward story-telling and stand-up comedy in favor of sound, Biblical doctrine was both offensive and disappointing to me. That is not a word to blame another person but to remember that we are often seduced by our own desires. Bob Coy had a long run. Lorenzo, http://thisisnthappiness.com/post/82410505140/a-2008-study-found-that-women-showed-signs-of, Ohhh, Lorenzo, bad form to shout in all caps. High profile and untouchable positions can only lead to catastrophic collapse like this. To all who insist he honorably initiated his resignation: His last fb post (Thursday at 3:37) was I cant wait for beach baptisms next month! Does that sound like a man who plans to end his pastorate that same evening? No, there are 2 parts to this Gods and mans. LOL. Well when you do bad stuff and get caught sometimes you have to pay a price and Im not sure it is the best thing for churches to put guys right back in Positions of Trust and power over folks telling them how to live and what to do etc. The crime scene was scandalously unprotected. LOL. Lots of stories here. Tracked down at the bar on a recent weeknight, the well-dressed ex-pastor looks no different from the days when he preached to thousands of followers. He resigned because he had no choice. finding out our churches and pastors had failings and unrepentant sin. He had been in hot water in the '90s when multiple women in his church claimed he'd sexually harassed them, but Smith gave him another chance. Founded in 1985 by Bob Coy and his wife Diane, it is affiliated with the Calvary Chapel movement.